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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TONYANJAII
i would talk to a lawyer for probable misconduct whio knows?
You can try it, but I honestly don't think it would work.

He doesn't need to ask for your permission once he has established he has probable cause you've been committing a crime within your car that would justify him searching it.

He thinks your drunk, he now has the power to search your car to look for any beer with or without your permission. Finding the knife would be legit because he found it while searching for something else.

I've also heard alot of rumors about 3" or 6" or whatever. I'm not sure what to believe, but I'm going to try to look it up. A rule of thumb I've always heard if you're carrying a baseball bat in the trunk of your car, put a baseball glove back there with it, when asked you can say you were playing a game earlier in the week and that's why it's there.

I'm almost positive he doesn't need to ask your permission to search the car.
Old Sep 25, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wpowe008
You can try it, but I honestly don't think it would work.

He doesn't need to ask for your permission once he has established he has probable cause you've been committing a crime within your car that would justify him searching it.

He thinks your drunk, he now has the power to search your car to look for any beer with or without your permission. Finding the knife would be legit because he found it while searching for something else.

I've also heard alot of rumors about 3" or 6" or whatever. I'm not sure what to believe, but I'm going to try to look it up. A rule of thumb I've always heard if you're carrying a baseball bat in the trunk of your car, put a baseball glove back there with it, when asked you can say you were playing a game earlier in the week and that's why it's there.

I'm almost positive he doesn't need to ask your permission to search the car.
So based on that I should keep some throwing knives next to my katana and say I was practicing ninjitsu earlier in the week and forgot to take them out?
Old Sep 25, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by derangedazn
So based on that I should keep some throwing knives next to my katana and say I was practicing ninjitsu earlier in the week and forgot to take them out?
hahahaha
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Accentman07
yeah i was reading the laws on how long the blade could be... but i didnt find it.... i've seen that it cant be a dirk or a bowie knife or something like a switchblade etc....etc... and of course butterflies are illegal knives.
here ... read this

Virginia -

18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.

A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation, (i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain; (iv) any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart; or (v) any weapon of like kind as those enumerated in this subsection, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A second violation of this section or a conviction under this section subsequent to any conviction under any substantially similar ordinance of any county, city, or town shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony, and a third or subsequent such violation shall be punishable as a Class 5 felony. For the purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to disguise the weapon's true nature.

B. This section shall not apply to any person while in his own place of abode or the curtilage thereof.

Except as provided in subsection J1, this section shall not apply to:

1. Any person while in his own place of business;

2. Any law-enforcement officer, wherever such law-enforcement officer may travel in the Commonwealth;

3. Any regularly enrolled member of a target shooting organization who is at, or going to or from, an established shooting range, provided that the weapons are unloaded and securely wrapped while being transported;

4. Any regularly enrolled member of a weapons collecting organization who is at, or going to or from, a bona fide weapons exhibition, provided that the weapons are unloaded and securely wrapped while being transported;

5. Any person carrying such weapons between his place of abode and a place of purchase or repair, provided the weapons are unloaded and securely wrapped while being transported;

6. Any person actually engaged in lawful hunting, as authorized by the Board of Game and Inland Fisheries, under inclement weather conditions necessitating temporary protection of his firearm from those conditions, provided that possession of a handgun while engaged in lawful hunting shall not be construed as hunting with a handgun if the person hunting is carrying a valid concealed handgun permit; and

7.[listed public officials]

N. As used in this article:

"Ballistic knife" means any knife with a detachable blade that is propelled by a spring-operated mechanism.

"Spring stick" means a spring-loaded metal stick activated by pushing a button which rapidly and forcefully telescopes the weapon to several times its original length.

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?18.2-308.1. Possession of firearm, stun weapon, or other weapon on school property prohibited.

A. If any person possesses any (i) stun weapon or taser as defined in this section; (ii) knife, except a pocket knife having a folding metal blade of less than three inches; or (iii) weapon, including a weapon of like kind, designated in subsection A of ?18.2-308, other than a firearm; upon (a) the property of any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds; (b) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (c) any school bus owned or operated by any such school, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor...

The exemptions set out in ?18.2-308 shall apply, mutatis mutandis, to the provisions of this section. The provisions of this section shall not apply to (i) persons who possess such weapon or weapons as a part of the school's curriculum or activities; (ii) a person possessing a knife customarily used for food preparation or service and using it for such purpose; (iii) persons who possess such weapon or weapons as a part of any program sponsored or facilitated by either the school or any organization authorized by the school to conduct its programs either on or off the school premises; (iv) any law-enforcement officer; (v) any person who possesses a knife or blade which he uses customarily in his trade; (vi) a person who possesses an unloaded firearm that is in a closed container, or a knife having a metal blade, in or upon a motor vehicle, or an unloaded shotgun or rifle in a firearms rack in or upon a motor vehicle; or (vii) a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit and possesses a concealed handgun while in a motor vehicle in a parking lot, traffic circle, or other means of vehicular ingress or egress to the school. For the purposes of this paragraph, "weapon" includes a knife having a metal blade of three inches or longer and "closed container" includes a locked vehicle trunk.

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?18.2-309. Furnishing certain weapons to minors; penalty.

A. If any person sells, barters, gives or furnishes, or causes to be sold, bartered, given or furnished, to any minor a dirk, switchblade knife or bowie knife, having good cause to believe him to be a minor, such person shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

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- ?18.2-311. Prohibiting the selling or having in possession blackjacks, etc.

If any person sells or barters, or exhibits for sale or for barter, or gives or furnishes, or causes to be sold, bartered, given or furnished, or has in his possession, or under his control, with the intent of selling, bartering, giving or furnishing, any blackjack, brass or metal knucks, any disc of whatever configuration having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, or like weapons, such person shall be guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor. The having in one's possession of any such weapon shall be prima facie evidence, except in the case of a conservator of the peace, of his intent to sell, barter, give or furnish the same.



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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Accentman07
thanks, i try not to rice it out... lol
haha i think thats the best statement you made so far you going to mega this weekend ?
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ravenracer
haha i think thats the best statement you made so far you going to mega this weekend ?
what time? and where? and when? cuz i work saturday 8 am - 4:30 pm
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Accentman07
what time? and where? and when? cuz i work saturday 8 am - 4:30 pm
well then you can forget it sucker lol its the biggest thing in va ?? how could you not know !!!!
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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wtf is mega.....and from what i've heard, if you tell a cop "no" to searching your car, they can still search it because you could be hiding something illegal it gives them probable cause to search it. But then again someone else told me that they can only legally search your car if: A. they have a search warrant. or B. you are under arrest.
However from what I have read, if a cop really wants to search your car, they will find a way to search your car.
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stea1thy
wtf is mega.....and from what i've heard, if you tell a cop "no" to searching your car, they can still search it because you could be hiding something illegal it gives them probable cause to search it. But then again someone else told me that they can only legally search your car if: A. they have a search warrant. or B. you are under arrest.
However from what I have read, if a cop really wants to search your car, they will find a way to search your car.
i agree.... and megameet is like one of the biggest car meets.....



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