Got pulled yesterday...
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Re: Got pulled yesterday...
So what exactly can you find illegal on a completely stock vehicle that is still sitting on the lot (not any dealer installed items)? I am curious about this, because I would call bullshit. VA's laws are shit, but not that out of this world. Even Cali wouldn't go so far as to claim this and they are freakin nazi's when cars are concerned.
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Re: Got pulled yesterday...
I think that would create a monopoly, no aftermarket company could create a replacement item for any automobile, specific federal laws prevent this. What happens when the company ceases to make parts, just toss the cars? They can say, as they have worded inside Virginia law at several points, that it has to be comparable to what it came with from the factory.
If the car came with dipped windows from the factory, you are right, then it would not be illegal. The cars have to meet certain criteria and standards in order to be sold in multiple states, California is the only state that has separate standards so far (that I am aware of) and even that only really applies to emissions. Cars typically have no more than 95% from what I can remember, a significant amount more light transmission than a 35% tint (35% is actually pretty dark compared to stock).
So, I am still curious what the cop was referring to when he said he could go to a new car lot and pick out illegal things that came on the cars stock. Unless he just came out of the academy and has never really read any Virginia code, I would have to say he has his head up his ass. Any cop worth his job will be able to spot many violations that give him reason to pull someone over, but there still has to be actual laws backing him up or he just ruins any chances for a conviction. One phrase no cop wants to hear relating to his case is: Fruit of the Poisonous Tree Doctrine.
again if you are curious if something is illegal for your vehicle in Virginia: READ THIS!
So, I am still curious what the cop was referring to when he said he could go to a new car lot and pick out illegal things that came on the cars stock. Unless he just came out of the academy and has never really read any Virginia code, I would have to say he has his head up his ass. Any cop worth his job will be able to spot many violations that give him reason to pull someone over, but there still has to be actual laws backing him up or he just ruins any chances for a conviction. One phrase no cop wants to hear relating to his case is: Fruit of the Poisonous Tree Doctrine.
again if you are curious if something is illegal for your vehicle in Virginia: READ THIS!
miata fag
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Re: Got pulled yesterday...
Originally Posted by Virginia Law
46.2-1049. Exhaust system in good working order.
No person shall drive and no owner of a vehicle shall permit or allow the operation of any such vehicle on a highway unless it is equipped with an exhaust system in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual levels of noise; provided however, that for motor vehicles, such exhaust system shall be of a type installed as standard factory equipment, or comparable to that designed for use on the particular vehicle as standard factory equipment. An exhaust system shall not be deemed to prevent excessive or unusual noise if it permits the escape of noise in excess of that permitted by the standard factory equipment exhaust system of private passenger motor vehicles or trucks of standard make.
The term "exhaust system," as used in this section, means all the parts of a vehicle through which the exhaust passes after leaving the engine block, including mufflers and other sound dissipative devices.
Chambered pipes are not an effective muffling device to prevent excessive or unusual noise, and any vehicle equipped with chambered pipes shall be deemed in violation of this section.
No person shall drive and no owner of a vehicle shall permit or allow the operation of any such vehicle on a highway unless it is equipped with an exhaust system in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual levels of noise; provided however, that for motor vehicles, such exhaust system shall be of a type installed as standard factory equipment, or comparable to that designed for use on the particular vehicle as standard factory equipment. An exhaust system shall not be deemed to prevent excessive or unusual noise if it permits the escape of noise in excess of that permitted by the standard factory equipment exhaust system of private passenger motor vehicles or trucks of standard make.
The term "exhaust system," as used in this section, means all the parts of a vehicle through which the exhaust passes after leaving the engine block, including mufflers and other sound dissipative devices.
Chambered pipes are not an effective muffling device to prevent excessive or unusual noise, and any vehicle equipped with chambered pipes shall be deemed in violation of this section.
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From: J'Ville FL.
Re: Got pulled yesterday...
I got an exhaust ticket for my spoon exhaust. I paid it because I was in the process of moving out of state anyway. To the land of no exhaust tickets and front plates.
