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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 4SFED4
No, I just think it should be fair.

I don't think it is a crime to be gay.
My problem is the Bible pushers that make the rules and look over something very clear and descriptive in the holy book they hold so dear.

How can people say they lead their life and spread teachings of the Bible while picking and choosing what to follow or mention.
Ahh, now that your anti-religion agenda is clear, I understand what you are trying to say. Your logic is flawed in the assumption that law makers are "bible thumpers" though. If that were the case you would get your "all or nothing concept" which is also extremely flawed:

Originally Posted by 4SFED4
It should be an all or nothing concept.
It doesn't make any sense, you are talking about an act that violates others rights (viewing porn in public) to one that doesn't (2 guys making out). Just because you find something offensive doesn't necessarily mean your rights are being violated. I can find Honda Civics to be offensive but that doesn't mean civic drivers are violating my rights.

Children viewing pornography can be very damaging, which does violate their rights...

Originally Posted by 4SFED4
Much like the laws imposing these civil penalties. We the people can't pick and choose which codes to follow. The rules are put before us and we have the right to choose to follow or pay the penalty.
That whole statement is contradictory. First you say people can't choose then in the very next sentence you say they can...


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Do I agree with these laws, no I do not.
I can only pray fire and brimstone to fall upon the hypocrites that created and enforce them.
So if someone doesn't agree with you then you wish fire an brimstone on them, and call them hypocrites in the same sentence. Look up "Ironic" for me please.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 4SFED4
My problem is the Bible pushers that make the rules and look over something very clear and descriptive in the holy book they hold so dear.

How can people say they lead their life and spread teachings of the Bible while picking and choosing what to follow or mention.

It should be an all or nothing concept. Much like the laws imposing these civil penalties. We the people can't pick and choose which codes to follow. The rules are put before us and we have the right to choose to follow or pay the penalty.

Do I agree with these laws, no I do not.
I can only pray fire and brimstone to fall upon the hypocrites that created and enforce them.
Normally I would say this guy is a moron, but I am trying to be nice today. He makes these statements because of stereotypes with the majority of the holier than thou conservatives who screw everything up trying to force their beliefs through laws. I am huge conservative but I don't believe in forcing my views on people. Stereotypes exist because a common trait is seen among a group of people and turned into an absolute. But what he forgets is that the majority of the people he just referenced are not in office any more. He must not have seen the control change over last year. That's OK though; for some, staying on top of all these current events is difficult. These laws were made by our current extortionists. That is why I am using a simple new voting policy.

Everything sucks right now so if you are in office I am voting against you. Maybe we can get our beloved Mayor of VB out in the next decade and get someone who will do something for the city.

Back on point he bitches about forcing ones beliefs but he makes all of those statements about forcing his beliefs, smiting those who oppose him...sounds a bit like Hitler...

Hint for the next time you choose to bitch about something, don't make your own self righteous agenda so obvious.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Murphyd311
It doesn't make any sense, you are talking about an act that violates others rights (viewing porn in public) to one that doesn't (2 guys making out). Just because you find something offensive doesn't necessarily mean your rights are being violated.

Children viewing pornography can be very damaging, which does violate their rights.
So in this case you can accept your children being in a homosexual environment. Then they can grow up to be homosexual leaving you without grandchildren.

So you don't care if your children are corrupted/damaged by homosexuality just heterosexual porn.....you are a cool dude

BTW I believe in God, just not a book written by men.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 4SFED4
So in this case you can accept your children being in a homosexual environment. Then they can grow up to be homosexual leaving you without grandchildren.

So you don't care if your children are corrupted/damaged by homosexuality just heterosexual porn.....you are a cool dude

BTW I believe in God, just not a book written by men.
I know, it's such a huge problem in the US, we should make a law to stop it. I mean you hear it on the news everyday, kids turn homosexual because of all the men making out in public....get real...
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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I know, it's such a huge problem in the US, we should make a law to stop it.
No, I don't think there should be a law.

Neither should someone viewing porn on a 7" screen in the back of an SUV with tinted windows be prosecuted by a dumb ass law. How much could a child possibly see from 10ft or more away. I have a 7" monitor in my truck with an 8ft bed and it is barely visible to see what happening on the screen standing at the tailgate.

On the same token I would not call the police on two homosexuals having sex in the back of their car because A. it isn't my business and B. I wouldn't allow my kid to spy in the widow to watch them.

However if the guy has a 32" Plasma attached to the last row of seats displaying porn and a stereo soundtracking it then I see no issue in prosecuting him.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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anyone mind getting back on topic?

Originally Posted by dat-ricochet
I agree with fines for dangerous/poorly done mods and REAL reckless driving but speed does not mean reckless. Speed is a factor in a lot of accidents but it is merely a factor. Accidents INVOLVING speed are often resulting from people going fast then recklessly changing lanes, passing or failing to be ready to slow down for traffic. This is because we hand out licenses like candy and don't have proper defensive driving courses. I think there should be a bi-annual defensive driving course that everyone must complete in order to maintain the privilege of driving. If this were the case we could raise speed limits and would not have to expand the roads. Which would allow us to keep a reasonable budget, maintain our current roads and put more police to keeping down crime and less wasted time enforcing useless traffic laws.
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i agree. shit if people could just use common sense, stop talking on their cell phones instead of driving (not bothered by those who are driving while talking, just those talking while driving) and learn the meaning of MERGE and LANE ENDS SOON i'd be a happy person.

speed isn't the problem 99% of the time it's the ones who aren't aware or can't react quickly.

anyways fines suck, i'd love to know where all this money is going. i don't wana get a ticket just to pay for a lawyer for some guy dipping out on child support, fuck that.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 4SFED4
No, I don't think there should be a law.

Neither should someone viewing porn on a 7" screen in the back of an SUV with tinted windows be prosecuted by a dumb ass law. How much could a child possibly see from 10ft or more away. I have a 7" monitor in my truck with an 8ft bed and it is barely visible to see what happening on the screen standing at the tailgate.

On the same token I would not call the police on two homosexuals having sex in the back of their car because A. it isn't my business and B. I wouldn't allow my kid to spy in the widow to watch them.

However if the guy has a 32" Plasma attached to the last row of seats displaying porn and a stereo soundtracking it then I see no issue in prosecuting him.
First off I see no reason to be watching porn in a moving vehicle, or in public period. If you feel the need to watch porn outside of the privacy of your own home, you have issues.

Secondly dark tint is illegal in VA (another thing you would get a ticket for). Thirdly, unless you're blind, you CAN see plenty on a 7" screen, especially when passing said vehicle.

Also I would call the cops on ANYONE having sex where there is a potential for kids to see it. If you're in public you just made it EVERYONES business.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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lol this thread is full of laughs.

ps: has anyone been to the sheriff 's auctions where they auction out all the fake merch (like the fake lv and chanel purses,etcetc) from the flea markets. they actually still call the items by the designers that they replicate, which i think is illegal..??? crazy shit. its like they go take it because its fake and sell it back to the general public as real. crazzzzy
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Originally Posted by Murphyd311
If you're in public you just made it EVERYONES business.
You should move to England where they keep everyone on camera.
Maybe there they could protect your rights.

If Honda didn't distribute the Civic there it may be the place for you.

I didn't think communist American should be joined in a description, but you are a good example.
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:32 AM
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You should move to England where they keep everyone on camera.
Maybe there they could protect your rights.

If Honda didn't distribute the Civic there it may be the place for you.

I didn't think communist American should be joined in a description, but you are a good example.
Wow it's like talking to a slightly retarded wall. Way to skip over all my main points again and call me a communist.



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