(local) Import vs Domestic race
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you sir took the words right out of my mouth
nagger i mean no disrespect...but if somebody has to trailer their car to the event then how is it a street car? it can be a "Streetable" car but not a true street car
for fear of breaking? that could be said for both sides and everybody and then everybody would have their trailer queens and this event would get no where
the rules are simple......run what you brung
if you cant make the trip up there driving it...sorry
the whole point of this is for street cars...sure ramey can run...but hes making the trip just like everybody else....WITHOUT A trailor
i do however agree let the import fwd cars run slicks...seems thats the only way well get import guys to sign up
but i dont agree with trailers on anyside...that wasnt the point of the competition
nagger i mean no disrespect...but if somebody has to trailer their car to the event then how is it a street car? it can be a "Streetable" car but not a true street car
for fear of breaking? that could be said for both sides and everybody and then everybody would have their trailer queens and this event would get no where
the rules are simple......run what you brung
if you cant make the trip up there driving it...sorry
the whole point of this is for street cars...sure ramey can run...but hes making the trip just like everybody else....WITHOUT A trailor
i do however agree let the import fwd cars run slicks...seems thats the only way well get import guys to sign up
but i dont agree with trailers on anyside...that wasnt the point of the competition
Because you would be stupid to drive a hour plus away and in my case break a axle or tranny racing then what? and i can drive my car to Cali and back without a problem.. I don't launch my car on the street so i obviously don't have to worry about breaking nothing daily driving..
Everybody knows a streetcar from a racecar i don't care if its trailored or not.
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I'd say I'd be down for it, I'd even use the fact that my car is a chrysler to put me on the domestic side so I can beat on the honda boys. But unfortunately, my car fits none of the rules the way I drive it regularly. I put my quick time pros on in the spring and don't take them off till winter. I have a 15 gallon tank and keep a jug of 5 gallons of DOT legal fuel (E85) with me when I go a distance. I have 100% stock interior complete with stereo, and heat. No roll cage is really the main killer though.
But I'm not going to whine and complain here about this. My car doesn't fit his rules so there's no reason to throw a fit over it. I'm all about a fair race, and unfortunately, the domestics that are on equal tire and fuel to me would walk all over me. I'd say I have a chance on asphalt but on the track forget it.
The point of the event is to have a TRUE comparison of equal import vs equal domestic. Not handicapped rules to see how lopsided you have to go with the rules before it's fair.
There's no replacement for displacement and laws of physics. And anyone who argues otherwise is ignorant and in denial.
honda guys/import guys always want to whine about how it's not fair they get picked on and that they can hang no problem, but when given the chance to prove it, they either run scared or ask for handouts to "make it fair".
It's a fun idea Mike, but unfortunately very few of the honda guys are going to be willing to try. If the rules are not written to favor them, they are too scared to race.
But I'm not going to whine and complain here about this. My car doesn't fit his rules so there's no reason to throw a fit over it. I'm all about a fair race, and unfortunately, the domestics that are on equal tire and fuel to me would walk all over me. I'd say I have a chance on asphalt but on the track forget it.
The point of the event is to have a TRUE comparison of equal import vs equal domestic. Not handicapped rules to see how lopsided you have to go with the rules before it's fair.
There's no replacement for displacement and laws of physics. And anyone who argues otherwise is ignorant and in denial.
honda guys/import guys always want to whine about how it's not fair they get picked on and that they can hang no problem, but when given the chance to prove it, they either run scared or ask for handouts to "make it fair".
It's a fun idea Mike, but unfortunately very few of the honda guys are going to be willing to try. If the rules are not written to favor them, they are too scared to race.
Imma have to disagree with ya on this one mike, Ive always seen a street car as someone ill see going down the interstate, so the day I see Shawn driving down the interstate every other day in the "race car" is the day ill consider it a street driven car.
Yes "technically" they are streetable cars, but you just dont see people doing that. (Not everyone is you haha)
The OP made the thread in the eyes of grudges of going down the highway and doing a roll race most likely, I just dont think I would ever see a car with a jojo front/full cage/race gas etc pull up next to me a race on 264 or something.
Yes "technically" they are streetable cars, but you just dont see people doing that. (Not everyone is you haha)
The OP made the thread in the eyes of grudges of going down the highway and doing a roll race most likely, I just dont think I would ever see a car with a jojo front/full cage/race gas etc pull up next to me a race on 264 or something.
Why not have everyone meet up at VMP they can trailer their cars or whatever (that way if they do break their trailer is local and they dont have to worry about someone getting it up there for them), but before its time to race every 1 goes on a "cruise" and back then let the action begin...as for the tires if the imports want slicks then they should be fair game for the domestics too...shouldnt be we get slicks you dont...you should put a poll up for the different rules Mid atl perf...but whatever comes out on top is fair game for everyone
This thread has gone from fun to a bunch of the usual bickering associated with these kinda races real quick. OP correct me if I'm wrong, but think we're missing the point. This is not a NHRA or any other type of sanctioned event, so all their rules are not applicable. The original idea was to take cars that we see routinely driven on the street, DRIVE them 100 miles or so to the track, and run them as you would find them every day on the street.
And seriously.... You guys with the roll cages/bars... does your insurance company know that you've got it installed??? To me no insurance = Not a street car....
But whatever... I'm still down for the event because I enjoy good times at the track. I've I get whooped on by a Honda or Mustang or whatever, oh well... Good on ya... Still fun doing 130 in a 1/4 mile....
And seriously.... You guys with the roll cages/bars... does your insurance company know that you've got it installed??? To me no insurance = Not a street car....
But whatever... I'm still down for the event because I enjoy good times at the track. I've I get whooped on by a Honda or Mustang or whatever, oh well... Good on ya... Still fun doing 130 in a 1/4 mile....
If you want a trailer there then have one follow you up or meet you there. The point of the drive is to weed out race cars and the time bombs. I planned from the start to have my truck and trailer be there just in case, whether it be me that needs it or someone else. It wouldnt be the first time I towed someone else home from the track.
I think its funny how much everyone has in common with each other, working on/love of cars, and it transforms into a big fucking pissing match on brand names and platforms. Nothing will be solved/proven by doing this race, but it should be a blast. Cut out the massive fucking egos and you might actually have a good time.
NovaMonte - there are plenty of insurance companies that don't charge anything extra for 6 point safety cages. The question is does the insurance company know of any of the mods, chances are big insurance carriers won't look kindly at them.
Personally, I would prefer to see a road racing event, rather than a stoplight race. To me it better defines what is the fastest street car, but it's a different can of worms. There the FWDs will still be at a disadvantage, but it wouldn't be such a one sided fight.
NovaMonte - there are plenty of insurance companies that don't charge anything extra for 6 point safety cages. The question is does the insurance company know of any of the mods, chances are big insurance carriers won't look kindly at them.
Personally, I would prefer to see a road racing event, rather than a stoplight race. To me it better defines what is the fastest street car, but it's a different can of worms. There the FWDs will still be at a disadvantage, but it wouldn't be such a one sided fight.
I really want this to be a race it like you daily drive it race. But I see the FWD cars just can't compete on an even playing field for the fastest ET. So what if we give the MPH some more weight towards the average? You say the domestics have the ET advantage, does that mean the FWD cars have the MPH advantage? If so, what if we average the groups MPH together, and whatever group has the higher MPH average, gets .1 taken off their average ET for every MPH over the other groups MPH average?
Example.
Say the domestic average ET is 10.5 and the import average ET is 11.0. And the domestic average MPH is 135 and the import average MPH is 141. Since the import MPH is 6 mph higher, they get .6 taken off their average ET to bring it down to 10.4. They win.
That keeps it a true street car event, but gives the cars that are better roll racers some help in the ET department.
What you guys think?
Example.
Say the domestic average ET is 10.5 and the import average ET is 11.0. And the domestic average MPH is 135 and the import average MPH is 141. Since the import MPH is 6 mph higher, they get .6 taken off their average ET to bring it down to 10.4. They win.
That keeps it a true street car event, but gives the cars that are better roll racers some help in the ET department.
What you guys think?
I am also surprised no one else has jumped in
See above post, us richmond guys wont have to drive to hampton and back, but we will somehow travel the same distance as them.
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Because you would be stupid to drive a hour plus away and in my case break a axle or tranny racing then what? and i can drive my car to Cali and back without a problem.. I don't launch my car on the street so i obviously don't have to worry about breaking nothing daily driving..
Everybody knows a streetcar from a racecar i don't care if its trailored or not.
Everybody knows a streetcar from a racecar i don't care if its trailored or not.
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I'm in if you need more domestic competition. It's just a heavy, stock cubic inch, nitrous car on radials... MM and I will make the drive from Richmond together if this happens and we aren't at the VA beach show that weekend.
Let me know...
Let me know...
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Ofcourse your welcome to get in! your name is added!
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I love this idea! I did not read this entire thread, so it may have been mentioned, but my only take is, the Import guys will be at a huge disadvantage with drag radials. Everyone knows that 60 fts are very crucial for the FWD guys, especially the ones that are making really high whp. I see that Shawn is on the list, and if he's gonna run the green Outlaw/SFWD EM1, it would be interesting to see it run on radials, as that car is probably making close to 900 whp, if not more. My Integra will be making over 600 on 110 oct. once the rebuild is done, but if we're only allowed pump gas, we'll back it down to 450-475, as Honda B series motors are highly risky beyond that power range on premuim pump gas.
But dont get me wrong, Im not issuing a complaint, because I LOVE drag racing, and if we're only allowed to run radials, I will gladly show up on them. Im just simply stating that if thats the case, I really dont think we'll see alot of low ET's from the FWD guys thats making alot of whp, just really high trap speeds.
But MAN, its about time someone stepped up to plan this, so I really appreciate your effort on putting this together. I think its gonna be a CRAZY event, and I will be there if the car is finished! 
But dont get me wrong, Im not issuing a complaint, because I LOVE drag racing, and if we're only allowed to run radials, I will gladly show up on them. Im just simply stating that if thats the case, I really dont think we'll see alot of low ET's from the FWD guys thats making alot of whp, just really high trap speeds.
But MAN, its about time someone stepped up to plan this, so I really appreciate your effort on putting this together. I think its gonna be a CRAZY event, and I will be there if the car is finished!